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Bisexuals Are The ‘Turd In The Punchbowl’ Says Massachusetts Pastor

by David Badash on March 5, 2013

in Bigotry Watch,Marriage,News,Religion

Bisexuals are the “turd in the punchbowl” says Massachusetts pastor Scott Lively of Abiding Truth Ministries. Lively’s 942 word blog post reveals that the man many believe sparked Uganda‘s “Kill The Gays” bill has absolutely no idea about bisexuality whatsoever. His ignorance and hate are shocking.

First, though, a comment. Lively claims, especially in his autobiography, to have found Jesus Christ, to be a man of God, and calls himself a pastor. “On February 1, 1986 I surrendered my life to Jesus Christ on my knees…” Is it proper for a Christian pastor to call a segment of God’s children the “turd in the punchbowl”? Should he not receive some official rebuke or censure? Should not the Christian right draw a line in the sand and denounce him, at the very least?

That lively is a well-known hate monger and the head of a hate group should give him no less cover, should afford him no less condemnation from his fellow pastors. Indeed, it should give them all the more motivation to denounce him, for he is making their Christianity a mockery.

Lively, whose “turd in the punchbowl” post for some strange reason hit Memeorandum, a popular news aggregator that tends to highlight the most popular news stories of the day, claims that marriage “is a clean and holy institution.” It’s doubtful many married people would describe their marriages as clean. Marriage is far from clean — it’s messy, challenging, hard work, although certainly priceless.

“The next time you’re at a ‘gay’ wedding with political, media or other important pro-gay-marriage celebrities, and one of them gets up with a glass of wedding punch to toast Partner A and Partner B for their courage to ‘be themselves,’ here’s a question to shout out (in a feigned drunken slur) from the back: ‘Hey, Dude, why don’t you support bi-sexual marriage too? Are you some kind of bigot?’”

Regular readers likely know that Scott Lively’s Abiding Truth Ministries is also a certified anti-gay hate group, and the Southern Poverty Law Center has documented Lively’s hate extensively. Lively has also been sued in U.S. federal court for his actions in Uganda.

Lively, who in November announced his candidacy for the governor’s house in Massachusetts,  goes on to calculate the necessary components of something he calls — or created — a “bisexual marriage.”

“Think about it,” Lively requests. “A bi-sexual marriage would require an absolute minimum of four people. You’d have same sex partners A and B just like in the ‘gay marriage,’ but you’d also need to have a heterosexual partner for both A and B.”

See? Lively doesn’t understand that people who are bisexual are not automatically polygamists — and rarely are. He writes:

You couldn’t get by with the same heterosexual partner for both A and B since that would mean Partner C wasn’t really a bi-sexual, but a polygamous heterosexual. (And we all know from “gay” activist rhetoric that polygamy can’t be a true sexual orientation. There’s never been a P in LGBT!)

So, for example. Male Bisexual Partner A would be partners with both Male Bisexual Partner B and Female Bisexual Partner C, While Male Bi-Sexual Partner B would be partners with Male Bi-sexual Partner A and Female Bi-Sexual Partner D.

There should have to be some sort of a license required to be an anti-LGBT activist, that requires one to actually have a clue about what they’re against before they embarrass themselves.

Laurel Ramseyer of Pam’s House Blend takes an intelligent, albeit much more generous view than I can:

Mr. Lively believes bisexuality to be synonymous with non-monogamy or polyamory. He is sorely incorrect.

A bisexual person is open to having a relationship with a person regardless of that person’s sex, while a heterosexual person will only have a relationship with a person of the opposite sex and a gay or lesbian person will only have a relationship with a person of their own sex.

Sexual orientation, whether heterosexual, bisexual, lesbian or gay, has nothing to do with the number of concurrent mates a person may wish to have.

Ramseyer is of course absolutely correct, but giving any credence to Lively’s hate is a step I cannot take.

Lively continues counting the number of partners required for a “bisexual marriage,” and gets to eight “and counting.” He concludes:

Is “bi-sexual marriage” really relevant? Of course it is! Bisexuals are a core constituency of the LGBT movement. The other side CAN’T disavow them! They are the 800-lb gorilla in the room. Or, if you will, the “turd” in the punchbowl.

Now, let’s all stop for a moment and remember that Lively is a Christian pastor.

And now let’s all wait for the Christian right to draw a line in the sand and denounce him…

 

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{ 8 comments }

Mykelbarber March 5, 2013 at 9:57 am

Mr. Lively is an SPLC certified hate group leader. He and his are the trash we have to pay government to keep cleaning out of the gutter (remember Oklahoma? Waco? Guyana?)

CastleRockBear March 5, 2013 at 10:08 am

Does Scott Lively realize that he is the "Turd in the Punchbowl" of humanity? LOL…He's sad at being a pastor at best! He needs to keep his craziness to himself!

cipher March 5, 2013 at 10:51 am

And now let’s all wait for the Christian right to draw a line in the sand and denounce him…

But let's not hold our breaths…

BJLincoln March 5, 2013 at 11:14 am

The real crazy ones will continue to hold him up as some kind of hero while the average anti-gay groups will more than likely sweep the whole thing under the rug than correct him. The rest of the world knows he is a fool and will point and laugh at his ignorance.
Nothing funnier than an ass hole talking shit.

dave72 March 5, 2013 at 12:21 pm

Any moron with a stupid, baseless opinion is free to vent it in the media as long as you're some sort of self-described clergyman.

Child of the Thames March 5, 2013 at 9:51 pm

As I see it the Christian Right has very little to do with being Christian. They claim they speak for the man and woman on the street but when you ask those they represent you end up with a very different answer. I don't believe this man speaks for God or for the Christians of any country. Instead he is a man who is good at making money, a man who enjoys destroying lives because he can afford to, a man who is unable to bring his lust for power into line with the simple message of Christ which was "love one another as I love you" and "none can come to the father except through me". The issue here is this country's freedom of speech policy and that it assumes that can be carried over into other countries. Perhaps the IRS should declassify him as a preacher because he is not fulfilling that function. Capone was brought down by taxes. For me as a pansexual Christian I find his words deeply offensive but fighting him on his religion is the wrong way to deal with him. Faith means there is no proof needed because he says its right so it is. Better to hit him the courts for his crimes against society and the international community and to remove his tax privileges. Then perhaps his led astray flock might just see the light and begin acting like Christians.

James_M_Martin March 6, 2013 at 12:01 am

I carried on a short-lived exchange of emails with this crackpot. I say short-lived because the moment he started haranguing me with dogma and delusional thinking, I terminated the dialogue. Remember, this guy co-authored a book claiming that the Nazis were homosexual and that this is why they killed so ruthlessly and murdered all the Jews. He extrapolates from unproved speculation that Hitler was a stud-hustler in Vienna and that even though he ordered the extermination of the S.A. in the Night of the Long Knives and allowed Himmler to put gays in concentration camps with pink swastikas, the Nazi hierarchy was predominantly homosexual. Such fantastical conspiracy theories are common in paranoid people like Lively, a closet queer if ever there was one. He and his co-author took a single fact — S.A. leader Ernst Rohm's open homosexuality — and made it the basis for the kind of claim that is roughly comparable to the "blood libel" of Jewry (the notion that Jewish rituals require the blood sacrifice of gentile babies). Remember, Goebbels himself invented the line, "Tell a big lie often enough and people will believe it."

Lively went to Africa to support the death penalty for gays. He is an evil, sick person. As Freud would say, he projects his own homosexuality on others so that he can distance himself from himself. This is sick, sick, sick. As he is a Christian he has his cross to bear. Hopefully, he will allow some big muscular dude to screw him to death, or at least give him what he wants most. Surely someone will supply the wood and the nails.

canyonoflight March 6, 2013 at 11:27 am

What a buffoon. He's just so stupid that I can only laugh at this comment and I'm bisexual.

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