Bill Donohue, president of the virulently anti-gay Catholic League, has little — or, from his way of thinking, too much — faith in the American people, and automatically assumed that if scientists found “the gay gene,” America’s expectant parents would opt to abort unborn gay babies — and “force” the government to pay the bill.
I disagree. Strongly.
I believe that Americans are not that hate-filled. I believe that if scientists found “the gay gene,” the vast majority of American babies diagnosed to have “it” would not be aborted.
“Here’s a thought experiment,” Donohue posits. “Suppose there is a gay gene, and suppose prospective parents can learn whether a gay gene is present in their unborn baby. Now suppose a president proposes that employee insurance carriers, including religious non-profits, must cover abortions in those instances where prospective parents elect to abort their gay-gene carrying unborn baby.”
We’ll assume Donohue, writing in his short piece, “Religious Liberty And The Gay Gene,” isn’t singling out unborn babies who carry “the gay gene” for a “thought experiment” because that would be wildly disgusting and offensive.
Donohue automatically assumes America would opt to abort unborn gay babies — because his “thought experiment” doesn’t work in his favor if that were not the underlying assumption.
And to be fair, Donohue is trying to make the case that the Obama administration decision to ensure contraception services are available to all women isn’t about contraception but about religious liberty, but the point stands when he writes:
There are several issues here for a survey to consider: preventive health care; the First Amendment right to religious liberty; the public funding of abortion; and the intentional weeding out of the homosexual population.
[Emphasis ours.]
Lovely.
But back to the issue at hand.
Clearly, Bill Donohue, who has never displayed an original thought, is channeling Ann Coulter circa September, 2010, who said, at a gay Republican group’s fundraiser:
Once [scientists] find the gay gene, guess who’s getting aborted?
Disgusting. And false.
Nice try, Ann, and Bill.
Because the people who hate gay people are also the people who hate abortion. And if Bill Donohue thinks that anti-abortion Americans would abort unborn children because they will be gay at birth, what does that say about Donohue, and the “pro-life movement”?
Which means, Bill, that you have no faith — zero — in your Catholic flock.
Not to mention, doesn’t this mean Donohue accepts the fact that homosexuality is genetic? Or does his “thought experiment” not go that far?
Truth be told, Catholics actually support the rights of the LGBT community and same-sex marriage at a higher rate than the average American.
Yes, Bill Donohue is virulently homophobic. It’s truly clouding his reasoning. And it’s truly disgusting.
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It is tempting to let them run with that argument if it builds support for women's ability to wrestle control over their bodies away from uptight, tired, old, (mostly-)white misogynists.
The government doesn't pay for abortions. It should, but it doesn't.
The catholic church hates abortion and gays right? So is this troll advocating that it would be ok to abort if there was a gay gene and the baby had it? The intolerance and hate that the "church" generates is sad. I was told in school (catholic school) that we were all made in the image of God and that God does not make mistakes. Gee then it stands to reason that no matter what color or sexual orientation you are then you are made in Gods image and are perfect. But then I supose that they could find a bible verse somewhere that says different. Very sad!
Donohue is right, if not in the way he imagines. Were a gay gene ever discovered, there would be many parents who chose to abort rather than keep the child. And I'm not speaking of just Catholics and whatnot. There are many cases in which families or parents have trumpeted for LGBT causes and rights, yet when there own child came out to them they were…less than supporting. A close friend of mine was recently kicked out by his supposedly very liberal parents after coming out. It's one thing to offer support to a cause when it doesn't effect it, it's quite another when the issue arrives at your doorstep. It's always surprising to see how many people, on both sides, completely reverse their thinking on LGBT issues after their children come out to them.
First off, it's really no more than a "thought experiment" — they're never going to find the "gay gene" because there isn't one. Human sexual orientation is rather more complex than red hair or brown eyes, and all indications are, as in so many human behavioral and psychological traits, that there are a number of factors, genetic and biochemical, affecting outcome.
Secondly, did we really need any more proof that Bill Donohue is lacking in a certain degree of cognitive ability?
Agreed! It'll be too complex to ever find a single impetus for homosexuality. This is just a organization that's running out of things to yakk about.
Doesn't say much for his catholic upbringing. He should ask himself WWJD or WWJS (say) before opening his mouth. I am an atheist but most of the homilies in the bible have some good solid sense to them. Like not hating on everyone for starters.
I don't think it's as far fetched as it sounds. In their terms, it comes down to which is more abhorrent to their belief system. Gays are more abhorrent then terminating a pregnancy that hasn't come to term yet. If sexuality could be determined before birth, I guarantee there'd be broad religious support for fully funded abortions because they simply cannot accept that gays are human too and worthy of dignity and respect.
Gay-bashing bigots try to weed out the gay population by driving gay teens to suicide.
Excuse me, but just about everybody agrees that abortion as a means of birth control is a bad thing. We all hate abortion. The difference is in approach and passion. The chasm is that one side approaches abortion (and marriage and sexuality, and many other issues) as a breakdown in the social order, so their solution is to (re-)establish order through law as well appeals to scriptural and ecclesiastical authority. Breakdown in social order is a frightening thing, so they have great passion. The other side views the problem more as a breakdown in relationship, so they seek to understand the reasons why women have abortions, and are more likely to emphasize prevention. That other people have problems is not such a frightening thing.
Sex selection by abortion is a very real phenomenon, and almost universally in favor of boys. But what causes boys to be favored is a culture that regards women as lesser or inferior, or that ties wealth to male inheritance. Eliminate those factors, and the sex selection problem goes away. The availability of abortion doesn't cause the selection. In Donohue's experiment, what difference does it make if it is covered or not if nobody chooses to use the coverage? Quit bashing gay people and it becomes moot.
I think there are plenty of people who would abort a fetus they knew (or even strongly suspected) would be gay. Just look how many threatened violence or death "#tomyunbornchild", if that child turned out to be gay, recently on Twitter.
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Just another wacko catholic who is probably a victim of rape himself. I know a couple who per my pscyhologist cousin said that the church rapes kids and then uses their screwed up mind to drive the churches agenda of hate and discrimination against gay people.
Exaple – one know (admittedly a fixed gay) said that gays support the westboro baptist church (nuthouse) because it brings them sympathy
He also said that Matthew Shepards parents should have fixed him – blaming the parents for their sons brutal murder
Crazy as a rapid fox.
BTW why did RATZInger quit – its quite possible that the church figures he will be called before the International criminal court , probably for crimes agaisnst children – hiding the moelstation
Donahue is probably angling to be the guy who runs the CDF – successor to the inquisition.
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