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Diocese Of Catholic Cardinal Who Called Obama Ambassador Nominee ‘Faggot’ Has Pedophilia Scandal

by David Badash on July 6, 2013

in News,Politics,Religion

Last month, President Barack Obama nominated James “Wally” Brewster, Jr. to become the ambassador to the Dominican Republic. A real estate mogul, Brewster is also National LGBT Co-Chair for the Democratic National Committee and serves on the Board of the Human Rights Campaign Fund. And Brewster is gay. In response to the Brewster nomination, the Catholic Cardinal of the Dominican Republic — a Caribbean nation on the island of Hispaniola — showed his version of “Christian love.”

“Catholic Cardinal Nicolás de Jesús López Rodríguez referred to Brewster as a ‘maricón’ — which is usually translated as ‘faggot’ — during a press conference,” J. Lester Feder at Buzzfeed reported a few days ago:

At his side, Monseñor Pablo Cedano promised the nominee such an unpleasant stay in the country that he will have to return home.

“I hope he does not arrive in the country because I know if he comes he is going to suffer and will have to leave,” Cedano said. He called it “a lack of respect” that Obama “sent … a person of this kind as an ambassador,” adding, “[W]e don’t despise the person.”

Now, just days later, a priest in the Cardinal’s archdiocese reportedly is being accused of pedophilia, and escaping the island nation under an assumed name — and possibly with two boys.

Dominican Today says the Santiago Office of the Prosecutor announced Wednesday that it’s waiting for Immigration to specify whether a Polish Catholic priest, Wojciech (“Alberto”) Gil, accused of pedophilia by several families, has left the Dominican Republic under another identity,” reports AKSARBENT:

Investigators have determined that two minors from Juncalito have left the country, perhaps with Gil.      Faced with a widening scandal, the Santiago Archdiocese, headed by Catholic Cardinal Nicolás de Jesús López Rodríguez, announced Gil’s “suspension” effective May 30, reported Dominican Today on July 3.

Blabbeando has an extensive report and a roundup from other news sources on the Cardinal’s behavior.

Image via Wikimedia

Hat tip: Towleroad

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{ 71 comments }

jokiex July 6, 2013 at 2:15 pm

Has the Holy See become the Holy Senile? Jeez Louise!

SeanLiberty13 July 6, 2013 at 2:53 pm

Typical of the Roman Catholic Cult. pointing fingers at the people they think are "immoral" while acting as if their own immoral and criminal behaviors are actually "moral", justifiable, and ok. They, the oldest mafia in world history, are more corrupt and immoral than anything and anybody else on this planet. They look at images of others to find evil but all they need to find evil is look in a mirror.

genennene July 7, 2013 at 6:54 am

Could you cram any more malice and lies in a post your size? The Church teaches the Truth. And only the malicious propose that Truth should not be spoken due to someone speaking or acting without love. The Church is Christ's Bride. Your hatred of Him shows in your hatred of His Church.

SeanLiberty13 July 7, 2013 at 12:13 pm

ROFL. No lies. No malice, except what is earned and deserved. FACTS. The Roman Catholic Cult teaches hate and lies not truth. It is filled with pedophiles, greedy money grabbers obsessed with expensive worldly possessions, and grotesque blood thirsty Nazis. Go suck on a rosary or a "Jesus" cracker, lemming.

genennene July 8, 2013 at 12:55 pm

What a joke. You say, "FACTS," followed immediately by an opinion. The Church does not teach hate nor lies. If you are interested in knowing Church teaching, check out the Catechism of the Catholic Church, available online. The problem is not pedophilia but ephebophilia, caused by homosexuals who have hidden out in the Church and led double lives. Yes, there are scoundrels in the Church, just as there are saints. It's been that way since the beginning.

SeanLiberty13 July 8, 2013 at 5:19 pm

The Roman Catholic Cult DOES teach hate and lies. FACT. I know Roman Catholic Cult teaching and it is all evil. The pedophile priests, unless they said they were gay, are heterosexual. The term "ephebophilia" is not caused by homosexuals you f@#king idiot. The majority of those molested had it start before they were 14 and it continued. Making it pedophillia which is about control more than it is about sex and it is not about gender and it is most certainly not un-pressured consent. Homosexuality is not about control, it is about gender and it is 100%consensual. A 20yo man who has sex with a 19yo woman would be considered committing "ephebophilia" pinhead. It wasn't discussed until 1980 that gay men be considered committing "ephebophilia" and reich-wing trash like you decided to go with that because it was more Naziesque propaganda for you to demonize gay people in your thirst for blood while ignoring that heterosexuals do it also. It's not my thing, I would never have sex with someone underage. But I've heard by cousin who is in her 40's saying how sexy Justin Bieber is (barf). She has a sexual attraction to him (vomit), he's 19, so that would mean she is an "ephebophilliac" or whatever its called right? In the more evolved society she would be called a cougar. When you uneducated anti-gay parasites try to blame gays for your leaders being child molesters it always shows that you are uneducated barbarians simply trying to attack gay people instead of the actual people doing the crime.

The whole Roman Catholic Cult is run by scoundrels. The oldest mafia in history. Yeah, there are some decent and REAL Catholics like the Nuns my mom works with who all support gay marriage and think the RCC is turning to trash just as I much as I already do. On another note, please, "saints"?. ROFLMAO. Named such by the humans running the Roman Catholic Cult Mafia to con people into giving them more money and power as those same people fall to their knees like little bitches in heat. I kneel to nobody and nothing. I am not a slave and I am nobody and nothings bitch. I say who. I say when. I say how much. I like the Queen. I like the Queen.

Now go suck your priest's rotted ego inhuman Nazi trash. Wear kneepads though, they seem to be asking for more kneeling lately . . . and money.

designck7 July 7, 2013 at 1:35 pm

We are not the ones preaching hatred, unlike you and your church. I could care less if you pray 24 hours a day, every day, go at it, I will even buy you a rosary to help you… BUT… the minute you use your church as a means to deprive others of rights or bash them for BEING who they are (not CHOOSING who they are), you lose on every moral or logical ground possible!

genennene July 8, 2013 at 12:58 pm

Actually you are. You are providing hatred, lying about Catholics. You clearly don't get it, which is amazing, being on a site called the new civil rights movement. Freedom of Religious Expression is not the same thing as freedom to worship. You are a human being. Beyond that, you choose how you will act. It is equally amazing that your solution to gaining what you call civil rights is to deny it to other people, particularly when it comes to the First Amendment. For those you disagree with, they "lose on every moral or logical ground possible." Hey, you have the right to be wrong.

SeanLiberty13 July 8, 2013 at 5:21 pm

Nope. None of those are lies about reich-wing "Catholics". They are all true FACTS. You are all evil destructive trash hiding behind your nasty version of "God".

P.S. Freedom of religious expression IS the same as freedom to worship you uneducated barbarian. But that expression stops when and where it interferes in the lives of those who do not and BY LAW do not have to follow that religion. That is the law. Get the f@#k over it.

sdfrenchie July 6, 2013 at 4:08 pm

President Obama, in an unbiased opinion, chose a gay Ambassador to the Dominican Republic. Cardinal …Rodriguez, a representative of an organization that is supposed to be unbiased towards all, objects with revulsion to Obama's choice while the Monsignor threatens the new Ambassador a most unpleasant stay that will make him leave the country.

genennene July 7, 2013 at 6:57 am

The comment from the Cardinal, in a poor attempt at humor, was certainly not charitable, nor were the uglier comments by the priest. But don't label our President's actions as unbiased–this appears to be part of a political agenda.

faquint July 6, 2013 at 6:05 pm

Last month, President Barack Obama nominated James “Wally” Brewster, Jr. to become the ambassador to the Dominican Republic. Brewster is also National LGBT Co-Chair for the Democratic National Committee and serves on the Board of the Human Rights Campaign Fund. And Brewster is gay.

The Roman Catholic Cardinal of the Dominican Republic displayed, despite the "official" rhetoric of the Roman church, hostility and a disparaging opinion that exists high up in the hierarchy. Obviously-this man is a cardinal. Roman Catholic Cardinal Nicolás de Jesús López Rodríguez referred to Brewster as a ‘maricón’ — which is a derogatory Spanish epithet thrown at gay people.

Standing beside the cardinal, Monseñor Pablo Cedano promised the nominee such an unpleasant stay in the country that he will have to return home.

“I hope he does not arrive in the country because I know if he comes he is going to suffer and will have to leave,” Cedano said. He called it “a lack of respect” that Obama “sent … a person of this kind as an ambassador…" A person of this kind?

The lack of hospitality and basic charity is alarming! And then there is the name calling! Christian love, indeed! These two men, priests, are called to be "alter Christi" (other Christs). I cannot imagine our Lord behaving in such a manner. Demeaning another human's dignity is certainly beneath the dignity of the office of priest, and besmirches the name of Jesus Christ.

Is it any wonder that gay Roman Catholics feel marginalized and alienated from their church when even prominent clergy behave this way? This is not the only incident ever recorded by the press nor even related by people in the pew!

What a shame that instead of being a healing and reconciling presence, and welcoming Mr. Brewster, the cardinal insulted the Ambassador, and by extension all gay Roman Catholics.

The Ecumenical Catholic Communion welcomes with open arms, open hearts, and open communion our Roman Catholic sisters and brothers who feel insulted and damaged by such an environment. Ahhh! the Ecumenical Catholic Communion! What a wonderful way to be Catholic!! http://ecumenical-catholic-communion.org/

genennene July 7, 2013 at 7:02 am

These comments by these men were uncharitable, just as your attempt to encourage Catholics to leave Christ's Church is. True love for someone comes in wanting the best for them, and for those with a same sex attraction, encouraging them to live a sinful lifestyle is not love.

SeanLiberty13 July 7, 2013 at 12:19 pm

Incorrect use of the word "lifestyle" you uneducated barbarian.

genennene July 8, 2013 at 1:00 pm

The correct use of the word "lifestyle." And the name calling doesn't change that. It just makes it clear that you have no idea what civil rights, or civility are. Our actions are in our control. We are not merely animals.

SeanLiberty13 July 8, 2013 at 5:16 pm

Nope. Incorrect use of the word "lifestyle". Goth, Jock, Preppy, Country, Glam, Geek, – those are all lifestyles moron. You are the one that has no idea what civil rights are you uneducated barbarian. There is nothing civil about you anti-gay fools. You are all uncivilized barbaric fascists. No, you are not merely animals. Animals are superior to you. You see, a dog or a cat accepts his/her adoptive human as is whether his/her adoptive human is gay or straight. You are elitist fascist trash. Grotesque elitist fascist who need to feel superior to anybody who doesn't suck your nasty version of "God" off on their knees like spineless lemmings.

Oh and as for that whole "encouraging Catholics to leave Christ's Church". 1) Ya'll are doing that all on your own. 2) It is not "Christ's Church". The Roman Catholic Cult, like all human made religions, was created by humans. It is not "Christ's" Church, it is Human's Church, and Human's Temple, and Human's Mosque, and Human's Sacred Place, etc. etc. etc. etc. The human being named "Jesus" (not the fictional character you dip-shits created in your own image and ideology) preached in a field, in a barn, on a beach not in big expensive ornamented buildings with mutli-colored glass, silver, gold, bronze, jewels built on land that denies the people millions of dollars in tax revenue that could be used to build bridges, repair roads and train tracks, help the homeless, pay for healthcare, pay teachers and fire fighters and cops and garbage collectors. "Jesus" allegedly wore rags, tunics, sandals and carried a walking stick made of wood not gold. He didn't wear a crown of gold and jewels and elaborate robes of silk and embroidery. In fact "Jesus" allegedly said all of that was a "sin". Ooops. Oh that's right. You "Catholics" loooooove your pomp and circumstance. But letting the non-religious government allow a two gay men the right to wedding registry and a piece of paper that says this couple is married in the eyes of the non-religious government issued law and it's THE END OF THE WORLD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!! Well not really, since all of these countries, states, and Native American Tribes legalized marriage equality "God" hasn't destroyed the world or punished those countries, states, or tribes. "God" has had a lot to say to the anti-gay states though. Floods, fires, earthquakes, twisters. Hmmm. According to you "Catholics" or "Christians" or whatever the frak you are calling yourselves, all it took was 1 or 2 cities. "God" must have changed her standards. ROFL. She'll destroy the world when a TRILLION cities let gays live as are. Wait? have we reached a trillion yet? Eh, who has the time to count al of them? I have a wedding to plan. Maybe uuuuuuuhhhhh (sighs) I should find a boyfriend and trick him into marrying me first like my cousin did to her husband? Hmmmm.

ZaidiBaraka July 6, 2013 at 11:16 pm

The moment you think these men holy, you are delusional. Thinking such, your whole life, makes you a fool.

genennene July 7, 2013 at 7:03 am

Some are holy, and some aren't. Started with Judas. Thinking such as you appear to makes you wrong.

DstlacSimpson July 7, 2013 at 3:30 am

God tends to have a way of bitch slapping the arrogant and sanctimonious back into line.

genennene July 7, 2013 at 7:04 am

Can we count on that for our President soon?

SeanLiberty13 July 7, 2013 at 12:20 pm

Nope, because "God" is busy bitch slapping rubbish like you.

genennene July 8, 2013 at 1:02 pm

I'm not concerned about God in this area. Perhaps you should be.

SeanLiberty13 July 8, 2013 at 5:13 pm

LOL. Nope.

labman57 July 7, 2013 at 11:03 am

The Catholic Church — defending pedophiles and persecuting LGBT couples since MCCLII.

genennene July 8, 2013 at 1:01 pm

It isn't persecution to point out that having a same-sex relationship is sinful, and that homosexuality is disordered. It is charitable, and loving.

SeanLiberty13 July 8, 2013 at 5:13 pm

It IS persecution and harassment. Having a same-gender relationship is Not sinful because the secular civilized world doesn't revolve around human made "Biblical" superiority and controlled filled trash. Homosexuality is NOT disordered. Your trash is not charitable or loving. Feeding the hungry is charity. Opening your home to a neighbor whose house was washed away in a flood is charity. Raising money for natural disaster relief or finding cures for diseases is charity. Donating your used clothes is charity. Brining water to the fire fighters on short break from fighting a fire in 90degree weather is charity. Your anti-gay trash is hate, an unwanted and unsolicited opinion from a busy-body who can't mind his/her own frikin' business without someone having to get a restraining order against your psycho existence and you are a grotesque parasitic Nazi piece of psycho trash hiding behind your own grotesque, evil, selfish, elitist version of "God".

Eat it. Taste the f@#king Rainbow. Yum, Yum. Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum.

genennene July 8, 2013 at 11:04 pm

Sorry, but it isn't persecution and harassment to speak the Truth, that sex outside of marriage is sinful. For those who know it is, it bothers them to hear it, and they wish someone would silence those who speak the Truth. Homosexuality is disordered, and saying that does not make someone hateful. It makes someone honest. Having opened my home to a homosexual who was without a home for a year was a way for me to show love and charity to another. He knew how I felt about him, or heterosexuals who choose to have sex outside of a marriage between a man and woman. But I still cared for him. Your name calling shows your bitterness, not mine. The fact that you want to shut me up says worlds about your insecurities and disorder. God bless.

SeanLiberty13 July 9, 2013 at 12:36 am

Sorry but it IS persecution and harassment. It is NOT the truth. Sex outside of marriage is not "sinful" because the civilized world doesn't revolve around "Biblical" fascism. Do dogs get married before they f@#k? Bears, not the gay human ones, the actual bears like Yogi and BooBoo? Did the sperm marry the egg before it penetrated it? My ass married the chair when I sat on it, so does that mean I can have sex with it now? I don't know if it can love me as much as my left hand does. Wait? Do I have to divorce my hand before I marry a man? My dog f@#ked my cat today. They are not married. Are they going to "Hell" know?

Homosexuality is not disordered, and say otherwise does make you hateful and ignorant. Honesty is subjective. I don't believe you opened your home to anyone. Again just because you type it doesn't it make it true. Your holier-then-thou bullshit superiority complex shows your how repulsive you are. I don't want to shut you up, can't really do that since I am not the admin of this page. I really don't give one flying leap about you. You mean nothing to me. You mean nothing to the world or the universe. You think you mean something to your nasty version of "God" and goooooooooood for you. DON'T CARE!!!! I care more about watching Defiance than I care about you and whether your "God" looooooves you for persecuting gay people. Given all that, it says worlds about your insecurities and disorder. Gaia bless.

TazReynoso July 11, 2013 at 5:25 pm

I am from Dominican Republic and i want to clarify that this guy does not represent us, we don't think this way at least not all of us, i think that if someone is qualified for something it should not matter if said person is Gay or Straight, so Mr Brewster is very welcome to this country if President Obama says so. Second: we are not the island of Hispaniola since 1844, it was called like that when the Spanish colonizers came but when we obtain our freedom it stopped being called like that

genennene July 8, 2013 at 12:59 pm

Yep.

genennene July 8, 2013 at 1:01 pm

More name calling. I understand that is used when you can't formulate a position.

genennene July 8, 2013 at 11:00 pm

Well, now we are down to the problem. You have a chip on your shoulder, and you justify your actions with it. The term I use for homosexuals to describe their conduct is the one provided by the Church. Disordered. You are a human being, who deserves to be loved and treated with respect. But love and respect does not come with licentiousness. It comes with Truth provided with charity.

You confuse freedom and license. And that is a shame. It is you that needs to grow up. You act like a teenager trying to show how tough you are using profanity. It only shows how little you really are. It is a sad life, and I'd like to see you with a better one. God bless.

SeanLiberty13 July 8, 2013 at 5:13 pm

LOL. fool. No, it's used when that is all you are worthy of.

Aweee. Poor baby. You don't like being called names? Well, I don't like being called a "pervert", "abomination", "disease ridden sodomite", "faggot", "sinner", being compared to pedophiles or dog f@#kers, being told that I am "worthy of death" and should be "rounded up and dropped behind barb-wired fences and left to die" by "Christian" priests, I don;t enjoy hearing that my holding hands with the man I love is going to "destroy the world", I don't like having to look over my shoulder as I walk down a public street to make sure there isn't some anti-gay barbarian about to bash me because of the incitement to violence by anti-gay terrorist hate groups and that pedophile protecting Cardinal in this article, and I most certainly do not like being told who I can and cannot f@#king marry because of your grotesque religion which I am under no obligation to adhere to or follow so sayeth the FIRST F@#KING AMENDMENT OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION!

FREEDOM BITCH – Deal with it. GET THE F@#K OVER IT! and GROW UP. Evolve from the primordial ooze, pond scum, or stay in the wretched pond.

SeanLiberty13 July 8, 2013 at 5:16 pm

Nope

genennene July 8, 2013 at 8:28 pm

You are clueless and malicious. Hey, we were warned about you! You can good evil, and evil good. You call opinions fact. The priests who sexually abused are homosexual. Their victims were not female. Only those who have an agenda to lie would claim otherwise. It is sad that you have nothing but name calling and mere opinions YOU call fact.

genennene July 8, 2013 at 8:42 pm

Again, opinions you call fact. And name calling.

You are the one uneducated. Freedom of religious expression is not the same as freedom of worship. The old Soviet Union had freedom of worship. We have much more. I'm an attorney. And you are clueless.

genennene July 8, 2013 at 8:49 pm

You have the right to be wrong.

SeanLiberty13 July 8, 2013 at 10:02 pm

Awe, poor baby. Nope, that would be you. You were not warned about anybody. The priests were heterosexual. Actually some of the victims were female but the majority were boys because that is what they had access to. That is how pedophillia works you uneducated piece of trash. I don't have any other agenda other than to live my life without parasitic trash like you f@#king with it. It is sad that you are such a worthless parasitic waste of life. You deserve the names. Get the f@#k over you barbaric Nazi trash.

SeanLiberty13 July 8, 2013 at 10:06 pm

Nope. Facts.

Nope. You are the one that is uneducated. Freedom of religious expression IS the same as freedom of worship, dipshit. LOL. You're an "attorney." Right. LOL. Prove it? <-rhetorical. I actually really REEEALLY don't care about your filth of an existence.

SeanLiberty13 July 8, 2013 at 10:06 pm

But I'm right. You have the right to suck it (cyanide that is) parasite.

genennene July 8, 2013 at 10:35 pm

The priests who were involved in ephebophilia were homosexual. It is laughable that you want to contend that homosexual conduct is immutable, unless it is undesirable homosexual conduct, in which case it is heterosexual conduct. You are correct that over an 80 year period, less than 5% of the abuse claims were female. You are wrong when you contend that availability did not exist.

Then, you resort, again, to name calling. Typical of the undereducated, who have nothing of value to give. And you have nothing of value to give. Try being civilized, and we will see if you have anything worthwhile to say.

genennene July 8, 2013 at 10:41 pm

“If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names.” Elbert Hubbard, American Editor, Publisher, and Writer.

Historically freedom of religion has been used to refer to the tolerance of different theological systems of belief, while freedom of worship has been defined as freedom of individual action., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion .

genennene July 8, 2013 at 10:47 pm

“The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their right names”–Chinese proverb.

"Never does a man portray his own character more vividly than in his manner of portraying another's."
–Jean Paul Richter (1763—1825)

genennene July 8, 2013 at 10:56 pm

Whether you like it or not, the term I intended to use, and did use, was "homosexual lifestyle." It involves choices made.

Then you start on an uneducated name calling rant, establishing that you have nothing of value to add. It is a real pity.

Whether you like it or not, the Church is Christ's Church. He is opposed to homosexual sexual relations, just as He is opposed to sex outside of marriage. As to where Jesus preached, it included the Temple in Jerusalem, one of the most ornate places in His part of the world. As you don't understand that the decor of a church brings out people's holiness and brings them closer to God, and that the decor is an honor to God, you must not have spent enough time there. Pity.

Jesus wore a seamless garment, one of the most expensive pieces of cloth available, which was gambled for by the Centurians. You don't know Christ at all. Ooops. Two men or women with same sex attraction are carrying out sinful activity, again, whether you like it or not.

You confuse fundamentalism with Catholicism.

Again, you are wrong. Not that you let that bother you.

genennene July 8, 2013 at 11:01 pm

Your choice. You have the right to be wrong.

SeanLiberty13 July 8, 2013 at 11:32 pm

They were heterosexual. Homosexual conduct IS immutable. It is laughable that uneducated parasites like you contend otherwise.

Again, I didn't resort to name calling. It is exactly what you deserve and are worthy of. Big difference. Huge. You are the one that is undereducated but more so uneducated. You have nothing a value to give at all. You are worthless uncivilized parasitic trash. You provide nothing of value but filth to this world. Grotesque evil filth.

SeanLiberty13 July 8, 2013 at 11:42 pm

Ah, the typical Elbert Hubbard quote from bigots who spout out trash against people and when those people respond by giving the bigots the response they deserve and earned via well deserved names.

Freedom of religion and freedom of worship are the same and if you were a credited "attorney" you would know two things. 1.) Wikipedia isn't a reliable source and most professors would fail you for citing it and 2.) rhetorical means don't respond, you uneducated barbarian.

"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches" ~ Benjamin Franklin

"The Christian god is a three headed monster, cruel, vengeful, and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of people who say they serve him. They are always of two classes: fools and hypocrites." ~ Thomas Jefferson

SeanLiberty13 July 8, 2013 at 11:47 pm

“Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.” ~ Blaise Pascal

"The Christian resolve to find the world evil and ugly, has made the
world evil and ugly." –Friedrich Nietzsche

genennene July 9, 2013 at 12:02 am

If homosexual conduct is immutable, then you cannot control yourself. You must truly see yourself as an instinctive animal. Explain why you are a homosexual, yet Jerry Sandusky is not.

What are the names I called you that merit your tirade?

Your lack of self worth is showing.

genennene July 9, 2013 at 12:06 am

I used Wikipedia because I thought you might understand it. Freedom of religion is not limited to freedom of worship. It extends to living one's life by your religion, not merely going to church.

You are full of hatred. Pity.

genennene July 9, 2013 at 12:07 am

At least I'm getting something approaching intelligence from you.

SeanLiberty13 July 9, 2013 at 12:07 am

Whether you like it or not, there is not such thing as "homosexual lifestyle". That is the incorrect use of the word "lifestyle" you uneducated barbarian.

Nope. Not an uneducated name calling rant. It's what you are worthy off, because you are trash that has nothing of value to add to this world. You're filth, plain and simple. It is a real pitty.

Whether you like it or not, the "church" is NOT "Christ's church" because it was created by humans. It IS Human's church. He is not opposed to homosexual relations because he was one. It was parasitic anti-gay humans who wrote the human made "Bible" what were opposed to it and those writings lead to the murders of an uncountable number of innocent gay people by parasites like you. He is not opposed to sex outside of marriage. Again that was written in a book by humans to control people against their will. Nope, the decor of a church is filthy greed and gluttony. Starving people do not need jewels to gawk at, they need food. Brings them close to "God"? ROFL. The same decor in a church appears in a banquet hall of a high-end hotel. That must bring them close to "God" also. ROFL. Idiot. Oh and the painting on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel was painted by an known homosexual, still think it brings people closer to "God" with all the homoerotic nude paintings? ROFL.

Again, everything you say is hearsay, speculation. You have no proof. You're reading it in a book written way after the fact. It is just as true as Harry Potter is. Expensive seamless garment you say? I can get a seamless dress at Bloomingdales for $68 and one at Anthropology for $32. You think you "know" this alleged person "Christ" but unless you were there, you don't know shit. You're reading it in a book written way after the fact by fascist trash to control people. Ooops. Two men or women with same sex attraction are NOT carrying out sinful activity because they civilized world doesn't revolve around "Biblical" fascism, again, whether you like it or not you Nazi maggot.

Fundamentalism is Catholicism and there are more liberal versions which are legally protected in America.

Again, you are wrong. Not that you let that bother you, you grotesque piece of Nazi trash.

SeanLiberty13 July 9, 2013 at 12:20 am

Nope. No chip. The church isn't the boss of me or my life, the American NON-RELIGIOUS government, or the world. The church is worthless trash. You know nothing about loving someone who doesn't suck off your nasty version of "God" because you treat them as inferior and not with respect. You are not a human being. Trash like you have not one decent human quality. NOT. ONE. Truth is subjective and there is no such thing as absolute truth. Just because you say it is the truth. doesn't mean it is. "Christians" use to think the world was flat, but the truth is that it is odd shaped not even round. "Christians" use to think the Earth revolved around the Sun, but the truth is the other way around and "Christians" killed Hypatia of Alexandria for thinking such. Again incorrect use of the word "charity". You do not provide charity. You provide hateful, demeaning, unwanted and unsolicited opinions and when people respond in like, you know do to others as you want done to you, you cry "persecution" and play the little victim when the REAL victims strike back because they are not taking your Nazi shit anymore. You Nazis parasites are getting exactly what you deserve.

No, you confuse freedom and license. And that is a shame. It is you that needs to grow up. You act like a grotesque fascist parasite trying to show how "superior" you are because you bow down to a nasty version of a human made "God". It only shows how little, worthless, and grotesque you are. It is a sad life and I'd like to see you with a better one. Gaia bless.

genennene July 9, 2013 at 12:20 am

I use the term lifestyle, whether you like it or not, to include same-sex sexual activity in this context.

Your insecurity about your own lack of intelligence comes out in your comments.

Your attempt to redefine everything is necessary to make your self loathing more comfortable. And the more you do it, the more obvious it is.

You lack the ability to redefine Truth any more than you have the ability to redefine your disordered lifestyle and call it acceptable.

SeanLiberty13 July 9, 2013 at 12:21 am

But I'm right. You're wrong. ; )

genennene July 9, 2013 at 12:23 am

You repeat back my words because you do not understand them. You attack in a vile fashion because you hate yourself. I do feel sorry for you right now.

genennene July 9, 2013 at 12:24 am

That's nice.

SeanLiberty13 July 9, 2013 at 12:37 am

I know.

genennene July 9, 2013 at 12:45 am

You contend Truth and honesty is subjective. That means there is no Truth, and no honesty. No wonder you live such a sad life.

If you didn't care about what I thought , you would have quit posting. Truth hurts.

SeanLiberty13 July 9, 2013 at 12:49 am

Using the term "lifestyle" incorrectly proves you are uneducated trash, whether you like it or not, and it doesn't include same-sex-sexual activity. A lifestyle isn't an activity.

Your insecurity about your lack of intelligence comes out in your comments and your worthless existence.

I'm not redefining anything and I love myself.

You cannot redefine "truth". Either it is true or it isn't and there is no such thing as absolute truth. You lack the ability to define reality, like most religious sociopaths do. My lifestyle is very ordered. I am a trendy bohemian. That is a lifestyle. I own my own business, very profitable. I have great friends and family who consider me their equal as I am, not someone they need to fix. I do actual charity. I'm single, so that needs some work. I have a healthy dog, maybe too horny for his own good, a healthy cat who smiles for the camera and a kitten who stands on her back legs. I do need to get working on that boyfriend thing though. Maybe I'll apply to be the first gay Bachelor.

I don't really care what you call acceptable. Your arrogance leads you to believe that other people care what you think. They don't. They just humor you. Sad. Tootles.

SeanLiberty13 July 9, 2013 at 12:50 am

Blah blah blah blah blah from you.

genennene July 9, 2013 at 1:03 am

I understand. I use words that form sentences. It can be difficult.

SeanLiberty13 July 9, 2013 at 1:09 am

Nope. But humans are animals. You are not a human. You're trash.

I am gay because nature made me that way and It is not my place to question nature, only to roll with it. Get over it. You didn't live my life. You are not a psychic so you can't read my mind or heart and unless you are (enter any higher power here that has ever been created by humans) you have no authority to question MY truth.

Jerry Sandusky is married to a woman and had sex with a woman. He still to this day identifies as heterosexual and all he had access to were boys. Therefore he is a heterosexual pedophile who is obsessed with control. He is also a reich-wing Republican and a Christian who spouted out "family values". Ooops. Yet once again you reich-wing parasites used him as Naziesque propaganda to attack LGBT adults who have consensual relationships that may or may not be sexual with adults as well as attacking LGBT kids by default. But Earth forbid we point out that the most anti-gay voices are hiding something themselves like protecting pedophiles from prosecution, or cheating on their wives with a rent-boy, or forcing their underage daughter to do porn with complete strangers while working for one of the most prominent anti-gay "Christian" so called "family values" groups in the country and declare that a representation of the whole anti-gay shebang. Oh that's right, only elitist fascist busy-body reich-wing trash like you are allowed to do all the finger pointing and all that jazz….. and that's "good", Isn't it "grand", Isn't it "great", Isn't it "sweeeellll", Isn't it "fuuuunn", Isn't it…… NOT really!!!

You didn't need to use names to merit what you are getting. Your full statements merit it quite easily.

My self-worth is abundant but it is trash like you who have no self worth unless you are imposing your superiority complex on those who do not suck off your nasty version of "God". You are the ones that need everybody under the sun to affirm your hate of everybody who isn't exactly like you and join you in doing it all for your evil "God". I could really care less about you. You are the one who came to a pro-gay site to spout out your grotesque fascist bullshit. Nobody forced you to reply to me calling me a liar and telling me I shouldn't hate a pedophile protecting Nazi enabling cult that says two men getting a government issued marriage license is going to bring the "end" of the world, threatens an Ambassador which would be an act of war if even one person in that country attacks him and calls him a faggot, oh and has destroyed several cultures all over the world because they were deemed inferior and "ungodly".

Get over yourself.

SeanLiberty13 July 9, 2013 at 1:26 am

ROFLMAO. Freedom of religion is freedom of worship. It is the same as living YOUR life by your religion which stops at your life.

Nope. Not filled with hatred. Disgusted by fascist trash like you, yes. Angry? Yes. Nearly 40 gay people have been killed in NYC alone in 2013 so far, a gay teen in Chile had his foot amputated today (or yesterday) because an anti-gay barbarian tried to kill him with a machete for being gay, a pro-gay Christian church in Minnesota was vandalized with anti-gay BIBLICAL epithets, eggs and handcuffs locking the door the night before Sunday mass. How pleasant for the child parishioners of that church to show up to mass and the first thing they see is that. Anti-gay people, leaders not meaningless civilians, advocate putting gay people in concentration camps, the list goes on forever. African counties are passing laws written by "Christians" to kill gay people and imprison the straight people who support them. People are criticized and even attacked (which is the unacceptable one) for their beliefs all the time, that's life, comes with the territory. Don't paddle out to sea if you can't handle the waves. But gay people are not being attacked for their beliefs. They are being attacked because of who they are. I wasn't physically attacked because of my beliefs, I was attacked because I "look" gay. That is 100% unacceptable. I'm supposed to feel what exactly about the anti-gay terrorism your lot incites? Love? HA! That would diminish the REAL love I have for my friends, family, pets, and eventually the man I choose to spend the rest of my life with. Then you crybaby, yell "persecution" and play the wittle victim when you get called bigots or anything else and people denounce your nasty elitist version of a human made religion as nasty, evil, destructive, and dangerous. Get over yourself.

SeanLiberty13 July 9, 2013 at 1:27 am

Blah blah blah blah difficult.

SeanLiberty13 July 9, 2013 at 1:31 am

Nope. I appropriate them and twist them back on you because it works. I love myself. You don't speak for me so check you arrogance down your own vile throat. I felt sorry for your pathetic worthless existence the second you posted days ago.

SeanLiberty13 July 9, 2013 at 1:37 am

Truth and honesty is subjective. That is a FACT of reality. Only a Sith deals in absolutes. You are the one that lives such a sad life. Anti-gay trolls like you have no life of value. It is a life of nasty filth grown on hate and fascism.

Oh honey. I post because your fascist shit keeps coming to my f@#king inbox, to humor you, this is a pro-gay website and to humor and because I f@#king feel like it. You came into our house like the unwanted guest who leeches everything and returns nothing of value. Truth hurts, maybe not your truth but again you are posting in our world so your truth is trash just like you.

genennene July 10, 2013 at 8:59 am

You have a sad existence then.

genennene July 10, 2013 at 9:05 am

Even your answer is nonsense. If Truth and honesty is subjective, then there is no such thing as a FACT of reality. And if you are discussing Siths, then you haven't bothered to get on this planet.

You post because you think you have something of value to say.

Fortunately, you aren't in charge.

You say, Truth hurts. It does sometimes. But for someone who thinks Truth is relative, that means nothing.

SeanLiberty13 July 10, 2013 at 7:02 pm

LOL. Nope. Not in the least. #OYDH. HA! #UrJutting.

You are the one that posts because you think you have something of value to say but really it is all worthless trash just like you.

SeanLiberty13 July 10, 2013 at 7:02 pm

Nope.

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