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Pope Francis: Same-Sex Marriage Is ‘Anthropological Regression’

by David Badash on January 3, 2014

in Marriage,News,Religion

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Pope Francis may have won millions of hearts, including many from the LGBT community, but his positions on church doctrine have not changed. In the almost ten months since Cardinal Bergoglio became Pope Francis I, he has reached out to many communities and garnered support worldwide.

But Pope Francis is still the Pope, and church doctrine is still church doctrine.

So it should come as a surprise to no one that, according to Charles J. Scicluna, the Auxiliary Bishop of Malta, Pope Francis is vehemently against same-sex marriage, and sees it as “regression” for humankind.

Malta, a small European country of less than a half-million people, is currently debating a civil unions bill which includes the right of same-sex couples to adopt. Malta is a predominantly Roman Catholic country.

Scicluna reportedly says that in a discussion last month with the 77-year old pontiff, Francis repeated his comments from 2010: same-sex marriage is an “anthropological regression” — a step back for humankind.

“In 2010, then-Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio called same-sex marriage an ‘anti-value and an anthropological regression,’” Zenit, a news agency that covers the Vatican, reports. “In a conversation with Rabbi Abraham Skorka published in the book “On Heaven and Earth”, he said same-sex marriage is a weakening of the institution of marriage, an institution that has existed for thousands of years and is “forged according to nature and anthropology.”

Last week, the Times of Malta reported that the Pope was “shocked” by the Civil Unions Bill, “which will allow gay couples to adopt children, Auxiliary Bishop Charles Scicluna has told The Sunday Times of Malta.”

Defending his decision to use his Christmas homily to reiterate that a family had to be built around a man and a woman, Mgr Scicluna said he had aired these concerns with Pope Francis when he met him on December 12.

“We discussed many aspects…and when I raised the issue that’s worrying me as a bishop [the right for gay couples to adopt] he encouraged me to speak out,” Bishop Scicluna said.

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{ 16 comments }

RRuinsky January 3, 2014 at 4:43 pm

An ignorant bigoted Pope? Get out! No way! Is anyone really shocked by this? I've been amazed that anyone has been convinced that this guy is any different than his backward predecessors. They're all living in intellectual darkness ruled by ignorance and bigotry.

gutstringable January 4, 2014 at 8:40 pm

The Pope of course is perfectly correct in his views. There is no argument.

peterblaise January 4, 2014 at 9:36 pm

/sarcasm off

=8^o

gutstringable January 5, 2014 at 5:35 am

What is the Pope and the Church supposed to do? Jesus declares very clearly the definition of marriage. Are we going to to listen to Him or some unenlightened mortals who have a miniscule grasp on truth? Thank God we don't have a wishy washy Pope who bends with the whims of the times.

Peter Blaise January 7, 2014 at 7:07 pm

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I've got my radio tuned to WWJD … and Jesus says, "… Marriage? More wine with that? …"

Now, daw1, The Pope says marriage is built according to nature and anthropology, NOT JESUS!

So, who ya gonna listen to, Jesus, or some wishy washy Pope who bends with the whims of the times?
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Huntercgo January 3, 2014 at 4:47 pm

"Regression"? Because, of course, the Church of Rome is known for being forward-thinking.

Sophia_Sadek January 8, 2014 at 12:46 pm

I was thinking the same thing myself. There were a number of Roman intellectuals who argued that there could be nobody on the other side of the Earth. One reason was that if anyone was there, they would fall off. Another reason was that if anyone was there the would not be able to see Jesus descending from heaven during the Rapture. Official Roman resistance to the moving Earth paradigm is famous. People who live in the dark think that they have a monopoly on the light.

SeanLiberty13 January 3, 2014 at 5:10 pm

What he says is irrelevant because in countries like those who have marriage equality; nobody elected him, he contributes no taxes, his personal beliefs do not apply to those who are not members of his religion (in fact in America under federal law even members of his religion do not have to and cannot be forced to adhere to his religious beliefs and definitions) and the laws of those nations ban law being dictated on religious anything.

He has no power at all, NONE. In these countries marriage (as well as the rights and benefits that come with marriage) is granted by the government – not the Pope and not his version of "God". Those governments answer to their citizens including their LGBT citizens (equally) – NOT the Pope or his version of "God". Marriage equality is and will always be anthropological progression. Freedom is civilized. Religious based fascism is barbaric, regressive – NOT how civilized humans behave.

The Pope has NO say in my life including who I marry what-so-ever, as well as anybody else's life for that matter. That is an incontestable anthropological FACT that he better accept, get over, and grow up.

Huntercgo January 4, 2014 at 8:05 am

Unfortunately, aside from the legalities, the pope does have a great deal of moral authority in many areas of the world, albeit in many instances unmerited. That's why I applaud his calls for more attention to the plight of the poor, etc., although I'm not convinced they're any more than damage control. He's made absolutely no move to indicate any reconsideration of the Church's teachings on sexuality or women, and I'm not going to hold my breath waiting.

The fact remains, however, that what he says does carry a lot of weight with a lot of people, so if he's chosen to be in some respects less condemnatory, that's fine. I just don't expect anything substantive to come of it.

Sophia_Sadek January 8, 2014 at 12:49 pm

Backwards is forwards, forwards is backwards, up is down, down is up, left is right, right is left. Welcome to Rome.

debzville333 January 12, 2014 at 10:03 am

I would like to know, how the Catholic church can claim anything is "anthropological regression", if they do not believe in evolution to begin with? Regression to when exactly?

daw1 January 8, 2014 at 5:43 am

Goodness me Peter, Jesus describes marriage that way because it CONFORMS to nature and anthropology. I am not expecting to change your mind on this issue – far too inconvenient for you probably. In the meantime, stay strong Pope Francis!

Peter Blaise January 8, 2014 at 8:02 am

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Jesus saw marriage as an opportunity to drink … and that has deep interpretive powers for you against marriage for everyone who wants to build a family?!?

How inventive … NOT!

When marriage so-called protectors work to prevent the need for divorce, then I'll believe you care about marriage, but until then, I see you only trying to denigrate others, making them second class citizens, and for no reason!

Same with abortion — when those against unfettered rights to abortion spend ANY energy preventing unwanted pregnancy, including eliminating the rape culture, then I will believe you care about the unborn, but until then, I see you only trying to denigrate others, making them second class citizens, and for no reason!

It's great the leader of the Catholic hierarchy calls for attention to the practices of Francis (of Assisi): poverty, service, selflessness, non-consumerism, however you want to look at Francis (rather a lunatic, but inspirational nonetheless).

Show me ONE other member of the Catholic hierarchy following the Pope.

Waiting …
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debzville333 January 12, 2014 at 10:07 am

Show me please. Please list here exactly where in the bible Jesus defined marriage? Or, where he commented on homosexuality at all?? Please. I have asked several of your "righteous" brethren over the last several years, and none of them seem to be able to pinpoint that precise piece of scripture. Maybe you can? Though, something tells me you cannot. Because IT DOES NOT EXIST.

daw1 January 8, 2014 at 6:39 pm

Whatever Peter. Sorry you are so hurt.

Peter Blaise January 9, 2014 at 10:15 pm

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It's a dialog about a subject here, don't assess me and just write off the discussion.

Engage with us, address the content of what we share, and move the dialog forward.

– Who is the Pope or anyone saving in any way by interfering with other people, their marriages, and their families?

– How is the Pope and others taking responsibility for the hate and damage that cascades from their condemnation of other people, their marriages, and their families?

– On point here, how is the Pope's rationalization in line with any holy, spiritual authority, and not just mere self-serving, self-protecting, head-in-the-sand rationalization, like defending a flat earth was in it's day?

– Why isn't the Pope spending even more energy on divorce, a much more rampant "non-Catholic" challenge to marriage?

daw1, I am not the only one hurt — my family and friends and others all the way to the Pope himself, including you, are all hurt by such disrespectful dismissal of natural, normal human love, companionship, and strong and healthy families.

I wish rabid anti-gays would stop saying "… but it's wrong, it's a sin, it's nasty, it's not normal, you can't have babies, you're pedophiles …" and instead, address the realities staring you in the face … the same way you could address why, say, murder or stealing are wrong: not just because someone said so or wrote it down, but you could explore the ramifications of murderous or thieving behavior and take it from there.

I put it to you that once you try to analyze homos — LGBTQ people — you cannot avoid how natural and normal and same-same they are to heteros — we are all part of a continuum where two heteros may be more different from each other, and a gay and straight may have overwhelmingly much in common.

Go ahead, try it — contrast and compare homo LGBTQ, and hetero (or solo, or nono, speaking of the Pope, presumptively).

And summarizing up others as "… unenlightened mortals who have a miniscule grasp on truth …" won't do.

Think, more, and write, a lot.

Thank you.
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