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		<title>By: Put A Ring On It &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Toto, I am definitely not in Kansas anymore…</title>
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		<dc:creator>Put A Ring On It &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Toto, I am definitely not in Kansas anymore…</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 22:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] men and women. I attended the LGBT Leadership Summit in San Bernadino and wrote my first blog: Recipe for Disaster? about the chaos of that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Toto, I am definitely not in Kansas anymore… &#124; jaysays.com &#124;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toto, I am definitely not in Kansas anymore… &#124; jaysays.com &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 21:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] men and women. I attended the LGBT Leadership Summit in San Bernadino and wrote my first blog: Recipe for Disaster? about the chaos of that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: janewishon</title>
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		<dc:creator>janewishon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 19:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Laura and all who responded 
 
Yes, I do know that the meeting was crazy - but, sitting in the front and counting votes, I was amazed at how focused the crowd really was.  
 
Since then I have found myself embraced by the LGBT community in ways I never expected. I&#039;m now part of the group planning Sunday&#039;s working meeting and see how many different perspectives are valued.  
 
It is my greatest hope that many people from the Perpare to Prevail group (aka 2012) will be there on Sunday. Their concerns are important and valid - the 2010 Coalition needs to hear them. I believe that the work CAN be done in time for 2010 if we work hard enough. 
 
Jane </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Laura and all who responded </p>
<p>Yes, I do know that the meeting was crazy &#8211; but, sitting in the front and counting votes, I was amazed at how focused the crowd really was.  </p>
<p>Since then I have found myself embraced by the LGBT community in ways I never expected. I&#039;m now part of the group planning Sunday&#039;s working meeting and see how many different perspectives are valued.  </p>
<p>It is my greatest hope that many people from the Perpare to Prevail group (aka 2012) will be there on Sunday. Their concerns are important and valid &#8211; the 2010 Coalition needs to hear them. I believe that the work CAN be done in time for 2010 if we work hard enough. </p>
<p>Jane</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 07:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unity is more important than full equality on LGBT issues?  
 
There is no argument that a strong, united, and committed movement would make it easier to achieve our goals. But I find the level of discussion and interaction in the community healthy at this stage of the game.  Last time we set back and thought the leaders knew what they were doing.  They were wrong and we were wrong in sitting on the sidelines, letting them make the mistakes.   
 
As you can tell this time around it is going to be different.  More people are getting involved. More people want to be heard. Yes, it can be messy and disorganized.  But I would rather have this level of passion than what we went through last year.  So I vote for equality over unity. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unity is more important than full equality on LGBT issues?  </p>
<p>There is no argument that a strong, united, and committed movement would make it easier to achieve our goals. But I find the level of discussion and interaction in the community healthy at this stage of the game.  Last time we set back and thought the leaders knew what they were doing.  They were wrong and we were wrong in sitting on the sidelines, letting them make the mistakes.   </p>
<p>As you can tell this time around it is going to be different.  More people are getting involved. More people want to be heard. Yes, it can be messy and disorganized.  But I would rather have this level of passion than what we went through last year.  So I vote for equality over unity.</p>
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		<title>By: SoCal Muchacha</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoCal Muchacha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 04:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great dip into the blogosphere, Jane!  
 
As a fellow straight ally I sometimes feel like I don&#039;t have as much of a &quot;right&quot; to voice my opinion on when this issue goes back to the ballot as someone it directly affects. (I&#039;m for 2010, too.) But for me the entire issue is a CIVIL RIGHTS issues, so being straight/LGBTQ/black/white/christian/agnostic/atheist shouldn&#039;t come into play anyway and civil rights DO directly affect all of us, so I&#8217;m going with the notion that my opinion matters as much as anyone else&#8217;s. (Okay, did that make ANY sense? ;))   
 
I&#039;ve read, with great interest, varying discussions regarding the recent meeting of the minds, and Unite the Fight, I thought your piece did a great job of giving us another perspective.  You can have 2 people or 200 people in a room and each and every person is going to see things differently, take something different away from it all, and believe it or not actually agree on some items.  The most important aspect of it all to me is that they got together in the room at all!  It is a common cause that did that (equality) and one that I have to believe is more important than egos and dates.  And after the failure of those opposed to Prop 8 to get voters to see the sheer lunacy of the Yes on 8 argument, and have the proposition defeated on election day, I believe it&#8217;s a common cause which will overcome the inner squabbling in order for all to ally as one (albeit a sometimes splintered &#8220;one&#8221;) against those who continue to choose to deny equal rights to all. 
 
I look forward to helping out in whatever way(s) I can! 
 
Laura  
(LauraAndRudy on Twitter) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great dip into the blogosphere, Jane!  </p>
<p>As a fellow straight ally I sometimes feel like I don&#039;t have as much of a &quot;right&quot; to voice my opinion on when this issue goes back to the ballot as someone it directly affects. (I&#039;m for 2010, too.) But for me the entire issue is a CIVIL RIGHTS issues, so being straight/LGBTQ/black/white/christian/agnostic/atheist shouldn&#039;t come into play anyway and civil rights DO directly affect all of us, so I&rsquo;m going with the notion that my opinion matters as much as anyone else&rsquo;s. (Okay, did that make ANY sense? <img src='http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> )   </p>
<p>I&#039;ve read, with great interest, varying discussions regarding the recent meeting of the minds, and Unite the Fight, I thought your piece did a great job of giving us another perspective.  You can have 2 people or 200 people in a room and each and every person is going to see things differently, take something different away from it all, and believe it or not actually agree on some items.  The most important aspect of it all to me is that they got together in the room at all!  It is a common cause that did that (equality) and one that I have to believe is more important than egos and dates.  And after the failure of those opposed to Prop 8 to get voters to see the sheer lunacy of the Yes on 8 argument, and have the proposition defeated on election day, I believe it&rsquo;s a common cause which will overcome the inner squabbling in order for all to ally as one (albeit a sometimes splintered &ldquo;one&rdquo;) against those who continue to choose to deny equal rights to all. </p>
<p>I look forward to helping out in whatever way(s) I can! </p>
<p>Laura<br />
(LauraAndRudy on Twitter)</p>
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		<title>By: susanberland</title>
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		<dc:creator>susanberland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for an excellent report on what happened in San Bernadino. I&#039;ve been leaning toward 2010 and after hearing some of the polling results am worried we can&#039;t win until 2012. Whichever way it goes, I&#039;ll be fighting to repeal Prop 8. We have a lot in common. I&#039;m a straight Jewish woman, fighting for marriage equality for my children and for all people in California and in the United States. I won&#039;t rest until full equality is a reality. 
 
Susan Berland 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://susanberland.yolasite.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://susanberland.yolasite.com&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for an excellent report on what happened in San Bernadino. I&#039;ve been leaning toward 2010 and after hearing some of the polling results am worried we can&#039;t win until 2012. Whichever way it goes, I&#039;ll be fighting to repeal Prop 8. We have a lot in common. I&#039;m a straight Jewish woman, fighting for marriage equality for my children and for all people in California and in the United States. I won&#039;t rest until full equality is a reality. </p>
<p>Susan Berland<br />
<a href="http://susanberland.yolasite.com" target="_blank">http://susanberland.yolasite.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Frumpzilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frumpzilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there, Jane.  Very nice job and I understand that a welcome to the blogosphere is in order - the blogosphere is lucky to have you.  I almost wish I was straight so I could join AWE. 
 
Cheers! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there, Jane.  Very nice job and I understand that a welcome to the blogosphere is in order &#8211; the blogosphere is lucky to have you.  I almost wish I was straight so I could join AWE. </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: TexBetsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>TexBetsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to the blogosphere, Jane, and best of luck keeping the rest of your life in proper balance. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the blogosphere, Jane, and best of luck keeping the rest of your life in proper balance.</p>
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		<title>By: Unite the Fight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unite the Fight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jane,  
You know I&#039;m a big fan. :)  
 
Though I can&#039;t quite agree with you that people are cooperating (I did witness name calling, cuss words, hissing and shouting, and that behind the scenes of the summit, things are tense), I do know that you add such an amazing perspective and I&#039;m so heartened so see such an amazing ally working so hard for our rights. You truly inspire me. And I hope to work with you in person very soon. 
 
People have questioned, with my mission statement to unite, why I wrote a piece calling the summit a failure. Through my perspective, we have no unity. I write that we have failed to come to a consensus, failed to recognize each other and our shared pain, failed to trust each other and especially our leadership, and that how can we move forward when we have splintered groups following their own agenda? (And by agenda, I mean plan, not something sinister.) It pains me to see our community this way. 
 
As I&#039;ve said before, people have cried out, &quot;Can you put a price on your rights?&quot; If the price is sacrificing the unity of our community, then for me, that price is too high. It&#039;s not about 2010 or 2012 anymore. It&#039;s about finding a way to unite us. Only then can we win. 
 
 </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jane,<br />
You know I&#039;m a big fan. <img src='http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>Though I can&#039;t quite agree with you that people are cooperating (I did witness name calling, cuss words, hissing and shouting, and that behind the scenes of the summit, things are tense), I do know that you add such an amazing perspective and I&#039;m so heartened so see such an amazing ally working so hard for our rights. You truly inspire me. And I hope to work with you in person very soon. </p>
<p>People have questioned, with my mission statement to unite, why I wrote a piece calling the summit a failure. Through my perspective, we have no unity. I write that we have failed to come to a consensus, failed to recognize each other and our shared pain, failed to trust each other and especially our leadership, and that how can we move forward when we have splintered groups following their own agenda? (And by agenda, I mean plan, not something sinister.) It pains me to see our community this way. </p>
<p>As I&#039;ve said before, people have cried out, &quot;Can you put a price on your rights?&quot; If the price is sacrificing the unity of our community, then for me, that price is too high. It&#039;s not about 2010 or 2012 anymore. It&#039;s about finding a way to unite us. Only then can we win.</p>
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		<title>By: jaysays</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaysays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for sharing with those that couldn&#039;t be there to experience the recipe first hand.  Great job.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for sharing with those that couldn&#039;t be there to experience the recipe first hand.  Great job.</p>
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